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I am Anti Liberal 2.0 (Anti Liberal Aktion)
Liberalism 2.0 is:
The Cathedral (neo reactionary sark enlightenment peter thiel etc) Successor Ideology, Leninism 4.0 (stupidpol says cultural marxism is really: French post-structuralism, radlib-unorthodox Marxism with woke idpol-intersectionality/tankiejerk redditor says what is called cult marxism is diff ideology related to the Frankfort school), psuedo postmodernism/western political modernity (which combined is basically American Thought) stupidpol
Synth Left coined by tankie caleb mauphin used by some lefties like on reddit against democrst like lefties
/Cringe Left coined by tankie Haz and ultraleft (also see here) variant of the Left, including Orange LibLeft the lefties i also see as similar to democrats and their ilk coined by politicalcompsssmemes reddit (
i.e wokecalists, coined by stupidpol
but the solid majority of the Left [Auth Left and non orange Libleft] are NOT Liberal 2.0),
the PMC-lumpen alliance coined by stupidpol, left contrarians , Shitlibs, Twitter 'leftists'
Neoliberalism left wing boogeyman (including Social Neoliberalism variant of reddit Neoliberalism and Washington consensus Neoliberalism latter of which left wing chile g boric c vallejo brand of anti neoliberalism broad front social convergence especially opposes, modern Neoliberalism the left wing boogeyman etc), state liberalism lite a lite version of state liberal like alt lite light version of alt right, RadLib (Radical Liberalism), revolutionary progressiveness state liberal related, worse form of liberal progressivism, transnational progressiveness diff but similar form of liberal progressivism,
cultural radicalism/Sociological Left liberal progressivism)
Liberal Conservatism/European-Latin American Liberalism liberals are right wing in those places)
Wet Toryism Nevertrumper Jennifer Rubin, Neoconservatism, Imperialism-Western imperialism,
The Alt Right (The Alt Right are more like assistants, aloof allies, and fifth columns of Liberalism 2.0 than being a part of Liberalism 2.0) i.e controlled opposition plants by the Democrats or fedboys)
Liberalism 2.0 is found mostly in the Center Left (Center Left ‘Normie’ Liberalism, but not all moderates/Centrists who lean Left), Left Center (Hard Left part of the Left Center, but a significant amount of or even most Leftists who lean moderate/centrist [i.e moderate Leftists] are not Liberal 2.0) and Alt Right
The radlibs (wokies etc) are centrist/center left but they share features with the far right. stupidpol me going st them from left. Like see here
The only thing that is ‘leftist’ about the radlibs (wokies etc) that they claim to be advancing egalitarianism, yet they are not interested in materialism, they are fully concerned with atrophying prejudice in each individual since they think this will make our current economic system ok. stupidpol
That is absolutely a centrist project, they want to improve the system we are living in, not change it, or at least their first priority is to get rid of prejudice, not economic change, so this excludes them from being far left. stupidpol
Political beliefs can't really be classed on a single axis stupidpol. Political beliefs can't really be classed on a single axis. Liberal 2.0ers lack self-awareness. This is the reason that they identify as so many different things as seen in this post, many of which they are not (eg. socialists or communists). stupidpol
As when I state when people accuse others of being 'fascist', if I am going to accuse someone of being a liberal 2.0, I usually do so after I identify what exact liberal 2.0 beliefs they hold, instead of me lumping them in with the undesirable group due to something they said in some weird way reminded them of some other Liberal 2.0ers.
Honestly I feel a bit bad for stating that I know and have seen a lot of people that fit the above description, but at the same time, it feels bad to call so many people NPCs or consoom-zombies etc . I don't know if I have a difficult time believing it, or I simply don't want to believe it, or something else completely . stupidpol
The vast majority of radlibs and wokies are authoritarian centrists, and have more in common with evangelical conservatives than either group would care to admit. stupidpol
Some leftists who had extremely conservative religious upbringings, they would agree. There are more similarities than differences between the two groups, the obvious features being puritanical thinking and self-righteous moral absolutism. stupidpol
I am a deradicalizer of what the MSM calls far right which includes far right adjacent people, the latter being the above radlibs (wokies etc) who are centrist/center left yet share features with the far right.
So like with what the MSM calls the far right, I make myself digestible to the above far right adjacent people (i.e auth centrist/center left radlib wokies by at least pretending to embrace some of their views which share features with the far right. stupidpol since it is normie acceptable to embrace those views and id be foolish to miss that oppurtunity but i am only doing so to make myself digestible to them ) who are centrist/center left yet share features with the far right by treating them as I do (including with above woke views) to create a conduit for my positions and philosophy to be internalized by them like Destiny did with Nick Fuentes and his Groyper army and Vaush does on Youtube to right wing extremists i.e
Most of the Liberal 2.0ers (well at least the more leftists Liberal 2.0ers like Successor Ideologues, Revolutionary-Transnational Progressives, Radlibs , Synth left/orange Libleft) espouse the cultural values of green (i.e non Liberal 2.0) LibLeft but are tricked into WRONGLY thinking the state is the best avenue for enforcing those cultural values.(when the state should NOT be used to enforce those cultural values) politicalcompassmemes reddit
The people driving the Liberal 2.0 movement are either pure AuthLeft or AuthCenter, depending on the person. They want to expand societal influence (AuthLeft, like academics and activists) or consolidate it (AuthCenter, like politicians and corporations), originally by using their deformed brand of class warfare, but now they abandoned that approach after the Occupy Wall St which they were a part of, went nowhere politicalcompassmemes reddit.
They then embraced critical theory and pushed identity and cultural warfare, by which they have been more successful. They don't really believe any of it, they do however see it as a means to an end (wealth and control) by pushing green (i.e non Liberal 2.0) LibLeft values as a Trojan horse for AuthLeft/AuthCenter political systems. politicalcompassmemes reddit
Liberalism 2.0 includes the Cringe Left . The Cringe Left is the Authoritarian leftism of Murray Bookchin and his ‘LibLeft’ adherents (Bob Black’s critique of Muuray Bookchin and Bookchin’s Authoritarian leftism) bob black post left meshes with my views on M Bookchin and company
The three political wings Left, Liberal 2.0 and Right have three extremes: Far left (Left Wing), Radlib (Liberal 2.0 wing) and Far right (Right Wing)
The American "left"has split in 2 groups: kiwifarms
Non Liberal 2.0 Left: The traditional left who uphold true left values and who seek improvement through humanism and compassion. kiwifarms
The Liberal 2.0 pseudo Left: The insane woke (American) left who mistakes fascism and oppression with progressiveness and who have created nothing more than a new religion, And are ironically guilty of all of the things that they are saying to be against. kiwifarms
Proto Liberal 2.0 economics /Liberal 2.0 economics include Social Liberal Capitalism, quasi-utopian socialism i.e what Republicans in the US falsely call “Socialism” (Liberal mixed economy)/Statism-Left Statism (which Millennials and Gen Zers also falsely think is Socialism), State Socialism with Liberal 2.0 characteristics, 21st century Social fascism , Humanistic-Inclusive Capitalism (including Woke Capitalism) , Wokecialism (race reductionist Socialism) ,’SuccDem’, and most forms of Keynesian Capitalism, Neoliberalism, real Neo marxism
Liberal 2.0ers unintentionally helps right wing extremists and play right into their hands just like Liberals in Germany in the 1930s unintentionally helped the NDSAP and played right into their hands or worse
Liberal 2.0ers (just like proto Liberal 2.0ers) love defending Capitalism and being Capitalist and Capitalism is an economic system of fascism stupidpol
Marxist theory says that fascism tends to follow the failings of the left to secure gains. Reformism and liberal 2.0 politics drag leftist politics to a screeching halt in times of pressure, and then chauvinistic movements come along to fill the gap. stupidpol
This is exactly what is happening with Liberalism 2.0. We are entering a new era of economic insecurity where basic needs are becoming more and more inaccessible. stupidpol
Yet, the ideologues of the democratic party want us to concern ourselves with the plight of transgender swimmers. They want us to be concern ourselves with someone's opinion on twitter. They want us to concern ourselves about gender inequality in corporate boardrooms.It's a load of bullsh*t stupidpol
In politics, as in physics, each action has an equal and opposite reaction. The Liberal 2.0ers do not know what type of monster they are creating. If this continues without resistance, 45 will prove to have been a foreshock for an unspeakable menace. stupidpol Angela Nagle’s book Kill all Normies expands on this and I generally echo everything she wrote in that book, as does this and this
I touch on this elsewhere in this blog
I also touch on this above in talking about “The radlibs (wokies etc) are centrist/center left but they share features with the alt right” part, but you apply this logic to all factions on the more extreme end of the right .
Seeing how much the "Liberal 2.0" discourse in the US aligns with ethno nationalist in Europe has constantly has been a point of weirdness to me. You get these people who are shouting calling themselves Liberal 2.0, and who talk way too similar to some European neo-naughtzies. stupidpol
The populist hard right types love this small shell game because they can claim to be defending their culture instead of a concept of racial purity. Richard Spencer does this b.s. But so do more mainstream nativist sorts like Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen. stupidpol
There are some vile little right-wing trolls that are pushing for a return of biological race science but I believe they'll be marginal on the right long-term. The lame Liberal 2.0 essentialists of liberal 2.0 academia's sociology and humanities departments have already handed the right the intellectual tools it needs to rationalize the abuse of otherized populations. stupidpol
Equity, Cultural radicalism/ Transnational progressivism-Revolutionary progressivism, and inclusionarism, are not compatible with the concept of liberty
“type of Libertarian sub-ideology which stresses inherent incompatibility between cultural egalitarianism/ progressivism, and inclusionarism, and the concept of liberty, as well as a focus on the importance of inherited culture as a means of maintaining or” https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Paleolibertarianism#10_principles
Who is not a Liberal 2.0er
Republicans who are Non interventionalist, non Neocon , non imperialist, non corporatist, non state apparatus (tankie.fandom.com (anti tankie wiki) says that should be used instead of deep state since deep state is a rw reactionary term), non statist, MAGA (at least in theory), soft to moderate Nevertrumpers (ones who are more like David Brooks , John Mccain, Joe Walsh, Joe Lieberman, National Review, and Jonah Goldberg and less like Bulwark, Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney)
Democrats : Boll Weevil, Blue Dog (a lot to most), New Democrats (between few and somewhat and a lot), Libertarian faction (some), Populist caucus/Squad (mostly), Left Wing Paleoconservatives (at least one Jim Webb)
Left Wing: (solid majority of the Auth left and the Green Libleft)
Left Communists, Anarcho Communists (due their dream society being opposite of a Liberal 2.0 dream society), Anarcho Syndicalists, Mutualists, Democratic Socialists (some), Post Left Anarchists, Marxist Leninists, Maoists , Trotskyists (some)
People:
Krystal Ball , Max Blumenthal/Grayzone ,Russell Brand , Michael Brooks, Ben Burgis, Chris Calliza
James Carville
Eric Clapton
Contrapoints: see here
Steven Crowder, Destiny, Tim Dillion, Jimmy Dore, Georgette Druck, Glenn Greenwald, Ryan Grim, Haz
Eion Higgins (blurs the line , but he is fair and one of the few decent woke progressive writers in the US)
Jackson Hinkle, Van Jones , BGJ,
Ana Kasparian ,Sameera Khan, Ryan Knight, Charlie Kirk, Kyle Kulinski, Bill Maher, Chris Matthews, Caleb Mauphin , Elon Musk,
Patton Oswald (at times he shifts into non Liberal 2.0 mode. I LOVE what Patton said about Trump supporters),
Anya Parampil, Christian Parenti, pewpewpie, Chris Poole /WSWS,,Tim Pool, Joe Rogan
Susan Sarandon (somewhat non Liberal 2.0 to a lot non Liberal 2.0 but she uses the same Liberal 2.0 talking points at times)
Sam Seder , Ben Shapiro, David Sirota, Tavis Smiley, Nina Turner
Howard Stern (at times he goes left and right of Liberalism 2.0)
Jon Stewart, Andrew Sullivan, Neil de grasse Tyson , Cenk Uyghur
Vaush (Vaush is one of the few Leftists who can fuse Liberalism with Left Wing politics and make that fusion work great by adding a positive element to Leftism without that fusion coming out as Liberalism 2.0), Emma Vigeland, Brett Weinstein, Bari Weiss,
Politicians:
Eric Adams: Eric Adams has more than some non Liberal 2.0 views and actions (like him trying to find syncretic non Liberal 2.0 police reform ideas)
AOC: AOC has mostly non Liberal 2.0 views and actions due to her being BDS and fighting for Palestinian rights and her having Left wing tendencies, besides being mostly left of Liberalism 2.0 she even goes RIGHT of Liberalism 2.0 when she is pro Israel in the correct way, by her votes with Republicans like on BBB or abstains or votes present or when she praises DJT like she did in 2016.
But AOC’s wokeness , her Liberal 2.0 sanctimoniousness, and her aggressive pro choice protests shows she has a Liberal 2.0 side to her
Michael Bennet, Lauren Boebert, Mo Brooks
Mayor Pete: Mayor Pete is to the right of Liberalism 2.0 on the economy, religion, and a few other issues (Charles Barkley and Alex Keaton endorsed him). Pete may even go to the left of Liberalism 2.0 at times. Though Mayor Pete has enough Liberal 2.0 views I am wary of supporting him
Bill Clinton Bill Clinton was Third Way, New Democrat etc, though recently he is Liberal 2.0 or at least pretends to be to save his image from his sex scandals and infidelity
Hillary Clinton : Hilary Clinton is barely in the non Liberal 2.0 zone by most of her political views even recently especially her private views but in 2016 she was close to being the very image and mother of Liberalism 2.0 Hillary For Prison 2024
Jeremy Corbyn, Dan Cox
Charlie Crist: Charlie Crist still has at least some non Liberal 2.0 tendencies in him
Ted Cruz, Ron Desantis, Larry Elder
Keith Ellison: Keith Ellison has enough non Liberal 2.0 views and actions for me to place here. One of his biggest sins is Ellison supporting some rarer Liberal 2.0 blocks of ANTIFA which is cringe
George Galloway, MTG, Josh Hawley
Tim Kaine : At times Tim Kaine can be seen as being non Liberal 2.0
Roh Khanna: Roh Khanna is non Liberal 2.0 on war, intervention at least somewhat, has a non Liberal 2.0 streak in him on other issues
Dennis Kucinich : Dennis Kucinich can be found to the left and even in rare times to shake things up to the right of Liberalism 2.0 (mostly early on, but in random spurts since then like in early 2017) sadly it seems his default take off point is Liberal 2.0
Kari Lake, Joe Manchin, Doug Mastriano, Martha Mcsalley, Bill Nelson
Barack Obama Barack Obama is at times goes left and right of Liberalism 2.0. He straddles the line between being Liberal 2.0 and non Liberal 2.0. But Obama’s presidency caused the rise of Liberalism 2.0
Ihlan Omar: Ihlan Omar has mostly non Liberal 2.0 views and actions
Rand Paul, Ron Paul
Max Rose : Max Rose has a slight non Liberal 2.0 voting record (like voting to remove Nancy Pelosi as Speaker)
Bernie Sanders: Bernie is to the LEFT of Liberalism 2.0, and judging by this article, it seems in some ways, Bernie has pragmatically moved slightly to the RIGHT of Liberalism 2.0 . I love both versions of Bernie Sanders. Leftish Bernie and moderate Bernie .
Curtis Silwa
Krysten Sinema : Krysten Sinema was left of proto Liberalism 2.0 in the early to mid 2000s, now she is to the right of Liberalism 2.0 more often than not so Sinema is somewhat non Liberal 2.0
Abigail Spangberger : Abigail Spangberger has a somewhat non Liberal 2.0 voting record and views (i.e Green New Deal, Migration)
Roger Stone
Rashida Tlaib : Rashida Tlaib is somewhat in the non Liberal 2.0 camp due to her Anti Israel views which sucks since I am somewhat pro Israel (but at least he isn’t like GWB or Boris Johnson onIsrael)
Andrew Yang, Lee Zedlin
Reddit:
stupidpol
Walkaway
PCM
True off my Chest
Ask a Liberal (between somewhat and for the most part)
Tankiejerk redditors : especially tankiejerkers who are similar to Tankies, or Liberal 2.0er tankiejerkers who punch left (against non tankies) a lot in tankiejerk, and tankiejerkers who are in between
Groups
Alt Lite
ANTIFA ANTIFA is least somewhat in non Liberal 2.0 territory and likely at least 45 percent of ANTIFA blocks are of non Liberal 2.0 ideologies. They are pro gun, pro mutual aide, know that Democrats and Joe Biden suck too
But ANTIFA at times is close to being poster people for Liberal 2.0s .
Just look at this clear cut prototypical Liberal 2.0 hit job by the seemingly (at least based off of that) Liberal 2.0 Rose City ANTIFA on Tomi Lahren, all for her having views on Trans people that wrongfully the vast majority of Americans and Europeans unfortunately have (or at least most certainly in private), and her ‘sin’ of praising I.C.E which is ignorant but certainly not xenophobic and most definitely not a cause to cancel her .
No true Left wing group would do such a thing to her, at least for those views she has. Shame on Rose City Antifa for that.
ANTIFA is wrong for counterprotesting pro life advocates. Being pro life is not fascist. Being pro life may be misguided or small minded and naive but certainly not fascist
BDS BDS is non Liberal 2.0 with their maps, Anti Zionism , pro Palestinian activism, but solidly Liberal 2.0 with their boycott, SJW, cancel culture methods along with them wrongly saying that Israel is an ‘apartheid’ state which is the type of demonizing that Liberal 2.0s do
BLM BLM has somewhat non Liberal 2.0 views and actions though sometimes they clearly cross into Liberal 2.0 territory with their overt wokeness
DSA I address DSA here, while most DSA are non Liberal 2.0 even reaching Tankie territory (Tankies are almost always non Liberal 2.0), DSA seems to be a wokeialist Liberal 2.0 front group at least at times stupidpol
Five Star movement More often than not. Plus they form Left and Right wing coalitions with fellow non Liberal 2.0 parties
Groypers
Occupy movement : I truly believe the theory that idpol was an intentional subversion of the class-conscious unrest that culminated in Occupy Wall Street. When it comes to any sort of collective action, the simplest way to undermine it is by dividing the collective into competing groups, and idpol does that very functionally. stupidpol
The fact that people openly assembled and had absolutely wildly different political views is something that has been weirdly decimated ever since OWS. stupidpol
I have the suspicion that pushing singular idpol-driven perspectives and rinsing them of any class analysis is an easier way of guaranteeing that people don't come together in public to hash stuff out than tossing stun grenades (though they did that, also). The cringelord Twitter libs as we know them today were not in vogue 10 years ago. stupidpol
The idea that someone could come into a public space and actively tell people they did not have the right to express something peacefully would've gotten you a lot of strange looks and LOLs around the time of Occupy. Libertarians, communists, moderates, darn even some cities had some Republicans rolling through to see what was going on. stupidpol
I don't think Occupy should be looked at like it was some sort of gigantic long-lasting class struggle, but the reality is that people of all different backgrounds were uniting in public all over the US (and the world) to attempt to connect their particular experiences, not harp on differences and try to leverage their own experience as more essential or universal than others. stupidpol
Shitlib politcal culture is what we get when the elites know that OWS failed but they don't want the potential of something similar catching steam again with the lessons learned from the first time around stupidpol.
Podemos Podemos is mostly non Liberal 2.0 (from the left) and they move right of Liberalism 2.0 like with them being patriotic and with their support for the 1978 Spanish constitution but Podemos has a tendency to move into Liberal 2.0 territory too much and too long for my liking
Proud Boys (non Alt Right ones only) Despite their pro drug views which they have from a Liberal 2.0 perspective and not from a non Liberal 2.0 perspective and them cutting too close to Liberalism 2.0 early on (Alt Right and Ultra Center Left)
Tea Party
Blurs line/ can’t categorize
The Humanist Report (blurs line of Liberal 2.0 and non Liberal 2.0)
Joy Reid : Joy Reid has some non Liberal 2.0 views from the left and the right and maybe she has more non Liberal 2.0 views privately. But Reid has a near solid amount of open Liberal 2.0 views.
Donald Trump: Donald Trump transcends Liberal 2.0/Non Liberal 2.0 and is in his own warped world of madness, insanity and egoist la la land
Most of his followers are clearly non Liberal 2.0ers . Trump juntad as a non Liberal 2.0 .
But Trump making gun deaths a CDC study (non Liberal 2.0s on the left and right are pro gun), Trump not having any firm political convictions , Trump approving Liberal 2.0 Criminal justice reform instead of either abolishing the police, prisons and the state (left of Liberalism 2.0) or not doing Criminal justice reform (right of Liberalism 2.0) etc lands him here
Libcom
They claim to be left but are more like a left lean liberal 2.0 group
They have a huge archive of communist and anarchist literature but they so often criticize movements on the left. They have been going around twitter bogusly claiming that Vladimir Lenin ordered a massacre of prostitutes. Who, if anyone, do Libcom tend to support? Nerds with Vaginas and Vellum and Vinyl?
Libcom did back track on the Vladimir Lenin accusation admitting it never occurred, just that Lenin ‘ordered’ it. See here for mote . However, due to Libcom having an anti communist tilt which is right of liberalism 2.0, still being hard on liberal 2.0 policies and being generally left of liberalism 2.0 they are thus significantly non Liberal 2.0 and thus here and not deep in the Liberal 2.0 camp if at all https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/7x1frz/what_is_libcom/
Shitliberalssay subredditers :
There is a full on radlib cuck element to the SLS subreddit and it has some degenerate sheetlibs/liberal 2.0 globalists that have decided to larp as Stalinists for some incomprehensible reason stupidpol
SLS really only talks about the most retarded Neoliberal hot takes (usually from twitter screenshots) and stupidpol
SLS also call anything and anybody fascism and fascist/nazbol/n..azi and gets quite hysterical, which ... sort of makes them look like Liberal 2.0ers as well, weirdly enough. They're Idpolers in their own way. stupidpol
The SLS subreddit borders on being Liberal 2.0 and non liberal 2.0 while wearing the aesthetics of further left political positions like MLism. stupidpol
Still SLS is better than most subreddits on this reddit, some of the time (they are really non Liberal 2.0 with their views on Russia-Ukraine, USSR, China, Bashar Assad etc which is good) and they mock Liberal 2.0ers which is also good), but that’s a low bar really. They also love woke idpol a lot though, hence why they’re radlibs. stupidpol
There are a few unhinged ultra-idpol freakies on SLS stupidpol
SLS are not tankies more like they are Trots and the sort, they advocate "leftist unity" which no ML does. stupidpol
reddit.com/r/tankiejerk There is an element of the Cringe left-Orange Libleft variant
and Shitlib variant (shitliberalssay) of Liberalism 2.0 in that subreddit more times than I care to see along with some Liberal 2.0ers who don’t punch left the way I want them to and who bash anything right of Jane Fonda
tankiejerk exists to criticize Tankies from the ‘left’ so by doing that they are splitting the Left which enables Liberalism 2.0 to be the real ‘left’
themajorityreport reddit (due to the diversity of leftist views but a huge radlib Liberal 2.0 element at least through framework)
Breadtube reddit (anti democrat, anti war so good but goes off the deep end sometimes into Liberal 2.0 territory enough for me to be wary of it)
Joe Biden: Biden is vastly Liberal 2.0 especially over the last decade, at rare times Biden goes left and right of Liberalism 2.0 but not anywhere near enough times left or right for me by any stretch.
I can give Joe Biden a pass on his wokeness since BLM had his back in 2020 he was obliged via a spoil system to have their back as President, including Biden implementing woke policies. And these sort of things here, here, here and this rightoid reactionary fan fiction here make Joe Biden seem consistently left and right of Liberalism 2.0. But Joe Biden is at the end of the day vastly Liberal 2.0
Liz Cheney : Due to Liz Cheney being a Neocon imperialist hypocrite (why can’t she be a Left Interventionalist, Left Neocon or Alexander Reid Ross type of Imperialist instead?), Cheney enabling Liberal 2.0 policies through her non stop endless anti Trumpism crusades which cause collateral damage
All Liz Cheney does is bash Trump and his troll supporters non stop, which is grave dancing and is so 2021. I agree with this article on Liz Cheney. Now her Anti Trump and Anti MAGA obsession is getting her in trouble with the Democrats too. Liz Cheney is an epic FAIL just like her devil dad
She says nothing about how she can fix things and you never hear her bash Democrats. She never stops bashing Republicans non stop. It gets old quick. It is between questionable and cringe for Liz Cheney to go after Ron Desantis. Desantis is more liberal than Cheney on over 67 percent of issues (like minimum wage, economics, guns, immigration, abortion etc)
There is nothing that Desantis has done to justify Cheney’s crusades against him since they have similar views
Even if Desantis probably deserves to be in prison, since Cheney won’t call for Desantis to be thrown into prison, she might as well lay off of him, and focus her crusades on different right wing threats
Liz Cheney was wrong to endorse Tim Ryan. She didn’t have to endorse JD Vance but her endorsing Ryan proves she is a traitor to her party, as this article shows . Vance is left of Liz Cheney, it makes no sense except out of spite for Trump endorsing Vance for Liz to endorse Ryan, Liz has gone too far. Goodbye Lizzie you neocon, imperialist warmonger, colonialist. Of course her boytoy Jamin Raskin still loves her
See here and here. This article is fake news. Krysten Sinema is a billion times better than Liz Cheney. If Cheney was like Krysten Sinema, I would warm up to Liz Cheney. The reason Krysten gets flak is because when she is bipartisan she helps the Republicans (who are mostly non Liberal 2.0) , which is the opposite of Lizzie
Liz Cheney also wrongly demonizes AOC .On social and economic issues, Cheney is non Liberal 2.0 for the most part.
I am glad that Liz Cheney wasn’t as harsh on Harriet Hagman as I feared she would be (since Hagman has mentally issues and insulting mentally handicap people like Hagman is bad optics). By Liz Cheney standards, she treated Hagman decent and I applaud her for that.
counterpoint: Why should a former radical right winger like Liz Cheney call out a group of people (Liberal 2.0ers and Democrats as a whole) she does not have experience with in equal measure as the trollish haters (radical Right wingers like some MAGAs) that she had first hand experience with? Maybe we should not try to encourage Liz Cheney to be bias toward finding balance when there really is no balance to be had. Radical right wingers are a more hyped threat than Liberal 2.0ers are after all. what jordan peterson , joe rogan or breadtube sphere reddit said about Christian Picolo not criticizing the liberals and left
Chris Cuomo: At least on CNNDNC. Chris might not be a Liberal 2.0 schill anymore as he has said he will now be be neutral and moderate . Though I haven’t seen this change since he joined NewsNation. Maybe Chris will change for the better like Michael Corleone did in the Godfather III, we will see (cue Godfather theme)
Dani Di Placido. Dana is a hyper Liberal 2.0, just look at his hot trash hit pieces on JK Rowling (who has more talent in her pinky than Dana has in his entire demon possessed body) and Mark Dice. Dana admits there are stupid purity tests for Liberal 2.0ers but he still makes partisan attacks on JK Rowling and others . Dana is very much a walking talking Liberal 2.0 machine if there ever was one
Kristen Gillibrand (use to be non Liberal 2.0 but now she is almost very image of Liberal 2.0)
Ted Kennedy
Kamala Harris (though I do like her pragmatism, her being decent on Russia , her practical outlook)
Adam Kinzinger : see Liz Cheney above, George McGovern
Walter Mondale Though non Liberal 2.0 Charles Krauthammer was Walter Mondale’s speech writer and Mondale supported equity feminism (ERA) which is non Liberal 2.0 in both directions (postfeminist equity feminism, maternalism right of it, postfeminism in general and left non radlib parity are left of it. However judging by Mondale’s 2020 speech he had mostly proto Liberal 2.0/ Liberal 2.0 views to the core
Gavin Newsome: Newsome might get a pass for his extreme Liberalism 2.0 due to it being an emergency response due to California’s vast inequality issues (or maybe Liberalism 2.0 caused those vast inequalities in California like a chicken or an egg thing);but Newsome takes that and runs with it.
Gavin Newsome is the very image of Liberalism 2.0 even though as mentioned he has an excuse due to California’s vast inequality issues.
I liked Gavin Newsome’s Welcome to SF message in 2009 on my SF trip and his anti sanctuary city views in the 2000s and even his unique Left wing (non Liberal 2.0) pro lgbtq 2000s actions as opposed to his Liberal 2.0 pro lgbtq actions now.
For example I LOVED Gavin saying in 2008 before the Prop 8 vote “This door's wide open now. It's going to happen, whether you like it or not.".
I like how he let anti gay Californians know that since the door was wide open, Prop 8 opponents had no choice but to push for Prop 8 to be defeated. Newsome’s statement thus attempted to convince Prop 8 supporters that Prop 8 opponents have an excuse to oppose Prop 8 which meant Newsome was trying to help those Prop 8 supporters not be upset if Prop 8 failed
However the fact that that speech by Gavin backfired on Prop 8 opponents shows that even when Newsome does good he still f*cks up royally Gavin newsom is an authoriatian. From the crown act to banning the sale of gas lawnmowers to forcing schools to teach Ethnic studies, he is a horrible governor , person and father.
Nancy Pelosi: Pelosi did a non Liberal 2.0 thing by pleasing Republicans with her Taiwan trip, Pelosi did a non Liberal 2.0 thing by rightfully defending Ilan Omar’s 1st amendment rights when Omar gave her opinion on 9/11, Pelosi did a non Liberal 2.0 thing by her being open to making us energy independent and Pelosi even works well with AOC (who has mostly non Liberal 2.0 views and actions as mentioned above). But other than those examples Pelosi is as Liberal 2.0 as one may imagine
So yes Nancy Pelosi leans left and is Liberal 2.0. But, mostly, as mentioned above she is about the power of the House, and assembling coalitions, twisting them into line, to get things passed.
*Chuck Schumer (not as a snug fit as a Liberal 2.0 because he is not a radlib/shitlib/ or even progressive, he is pro Israel which is base, and he is willing to debate when needed .But of course outside of that he has very Liberal 2.0 views, but more #resistance type than radlib, shitlib type. )
Neera Tanden Neera Tanden is not far off from being non Liberal 2.0. Some Liberal 2.0ers don’t like her so that’s a sign
Jim Acosta , Alec Baldwin, Dave Bautista, Joy Behar, Steve Carell, Cher,
Carlie Cloverfield: extreme Liberal 2.0 who falsely smears anyone to the right of AOC . She knows nothing about politics and is a partisan cheerleader for Liberal 2.0ers. She never criticizes any Democrat or other Liberal 2.0ers. She is a disgrace to journalism and a yellow fake news hack
Steven Colbert
Jane Fonda,
Samantha Foss : This woke girl’s Cisphobic attacks on her dead father at his funeral is beyond the pale. She is a petty bourgeois, rich ,silver spoon spoiled brat who never had a real job in her life. She needs to gdt her head out of her ass and learn manners, respect, loyalty and kindness. She is a hypocrite, she hoards all that money when it can be used to help poor migrants, blacks, Transgender people etc. Samantha Foss had serious and disturbing mental problems
I am fine with her calling her dad a racist since she is a self described black supremacist and calling whites racist is what black supremacists do. But even thrn she might have went over board calling her dad racist
Hemal Jhaveri: Racist extremist partisan bully who trashes anyone to the right of AOC as 'extremist' Hemal is the epitome of Liberalism 2.0 and is encompasses everything that I hate in a 'journalist'. Oh and to show just how Liberal 2.0 she is she has her damn pronouns in her profile. Seriously yellow media people like her are destroying this country and causing the rise of right wing extremists with her provoking and dehumanizing . She is a disgrace to journalism and a horrible person.
This article is a perfect example of just what a partisan, bias, hack that Hemal Jhaveri is
Jimmy Kimmel (except in his Anti China rant years back but seeing hoe Liberal 2.0ers have turned on China maybe that rant was Liberal 2.0 also via being ahead of its time)
Taylor Lorenz : Vile troll and anti semite who is the epitome of all that I hate in politics. She is so partisan, bias, mean (even in her Tweet against the NYT for agreeing with the NYP which I thought was a fair tweet, Lorenz went too far). Lorenz is causing division in this country and she is only a freaking tech editor.
Marylou Who? (Ohio Capital Journal)
Madonna,
Rachel Maddow (she has Liberal 2.0 views on most issues, at least for now she is Liberal 2.0 based on what I know. Maddow is intelligent, does her homework on political issues so to speak thus giving mostly very informed political opinions which I cannot say for most Liberal 2.0ers. Let’s hope Maddow moves either way left or grifts right sooner rather than later)
Debra Messing, Seth Myers, Lawrence O’Donnell, Keith Olbermann,
John Oliver (for the most part but not insufferable politically)
Ron Perlman
Nikki McCan Ramirez: extreme Liberal 2.0er who falsely smeared right wing conservative Steven Crowder as 'far right'. Ramirez only attacks right wingers (which in her mind is anyone to the right of AOC) and never Liberal 2.0ers
She has no context, nuance, compassion, diplomacy. She also knows nothing about politics, and is as partisan as you can be (she is a member of Liberal Warriors for Free).
Her being an extreme Liberal 2.0er clearly means she is too close to them to criticize them. She literally only sees extremism on the right and never on the Liberal 2.0 side (extremism doesn't exist on the real Left since the left is better than the Liberal 2.0 side and the right).
She exists only to shame ,smear and ostracize and violently attack anyone who doesn't agree with her views or anyone that is even a hint of Conservative or left wing
Ron Reagan , Mark Ruffalo, Ben Stiller, George Takei
Alexander Reid Ross As an Anarchist Ross is non liberal 2.0 being mostly left of Liberalism 2.0. His Fascist Creep and Multipolar red green brown alliance writings are Liberal 2.0. If Ross is as conservative as Grayzone claims he is , Ross would actually be slightly right of Liberalism 2.0 and non Liberal the other way
Nicola Sturegon: Dictator of Scotland. But non lib 2.0 because she is in anti villain or so bad she’s good territory , plus she is a Nationalist which is not a liberal 2.0 thing to be. Conservapedia makes her sound far right which is as far from .liberal 2.0 as you can be
Justin Trudeau Justin Trudeau is the poster child for Liberalism 2.0. He is no ‘Radical Centrist’ (if he was Radical Centrist, he wouldn’t be Liberal 2.0). Trudeau is an authoritarian, just like most Liberal 2.0ers. He is a sanctimonious,virtue signaling soy boy
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