Filter this through my other complex and personal spiritual for Jesus/God below stuff various https://fotrvtytfhhngdd.blogspot.com/2022/11/exh-ip-conflct.html
I am part Jewish and pro co-exist liberal progressive merchandise and motto slogan. I am a Post Zionist
I feel that Zionism has fulfilled its ideological mission with the formation of the modern Israel in 1948, In my opinion, Zionist ideology should therefore be considered at an end. Post Zionism
This has been evident since the Oslo Accords. Israel should no longer declare itself to be a Jewish democratic state and should instead focus on its democratic aspects. This movement seeks to create social equality in Israel in a way that meshes with my views in this blog Post Zionism
Questions that need an answer: Post Zionism
Is Israel a safe haven for the Jewish nation? Are there any other places in the world which the Jews' conditions are better from a historical point of view? (like North America?)
Is it actually possible to have both a Jewish state and a democracy? Should Israel become a state of all its citizens? Post Zionism
Is the Israeli–Palestinian conflict fully black and white? Did Israel always maximize its efforts to obtain peace with the Palestinians? Should all of the blame for the continuation of the conflict fall on the Palestinian side? Post Zionism
Many of the above questions have also been raised by Zionists. However, I emphasize these points in their conception of Zionist history.
It is good I guess to challenge the existence of a cultural hegemony in Israel. Different groups have undermined the perception of the melting pot, according to which only one Israeli culture existed and all the cultures joining it had to shed their previous identities.
These unique cultural communities who have been fighting for their place in Israel include Mizrahi Jews (who in 2000s i assumed were normal jews like Sepharic and Ashkenzi), USSR immigrants (Jew like slavic, Jews also went from ussr to israel), Israeli Arabs etc.
I am against Israel going woke and if Israel moving left as I want them to also causes it to go woke then count me out. I want them to be left not Liberal 2.0/woke
I much prefer the old school humanist universal Zionism (adl: Although Gilad Atzmon frequently attacks Zionism, he has also argued that Zionism itself was originally a “universalist and humanist” movement which was “hijacked by Judaism” and that Israel is a “tyranny inspired by a deep Talmudic intolerance.”)
Non Zionism, Labour Zionism (non Zionist) stalinism also light nazbol etc
and Israeli Nationalism to modern Zionism as I feel those types of nationalisms are better than modern Zionism. Modern Zionism is too Nationalistic for me. https://cnsrrwrpcnbg.blogspot.com/2022/07/nat-soc-far-left-blog.html
Jewish people have wandered for thousands of years without nation or power ,until the creation of Israel (and even after it, though much less so than before) and are thus a refutation of Zionist and Nationalist idealogy (or even the concept of a country to being with) since their cohesion through their wanderings eliminate the whole nation-power concept from politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_OssietzkyThey should be admired for keeping their identity and culture together through those thousands of years of wanderings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Ossietzky
Jewish dispora should be a model for a post nation world where nations are fluid and nomadic, more like the Jewish dispora Jews (mobile and fluid) and less like Israel Jews (Zionist/Nationalist) and static nation residents (ie US, Canada, Australia, China, UK, etc) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Ossietzky?
I have no major issues that I know of with Zionism per say (while I am a Post Zionist, I am not an Anti Zionist), and I am very ok with the US being pro Israel but the US embracing Zionism (or at least as much as they have) is not ideal in my mind. This is because I am a non interventionist.
We should support Israel like any of our allies like the UK, Australia, Argentina, but not more than we support those allies and certainly not put Israel above the US.
Maybe in the past that the US being Israel First (Nick Fuentes lingo) was needed due to the Jews needing Israel after their centuries of abuse
But I am Post Zionist and the US should no longer support Israel like that and thus should accordingly become Post Zionist. The US should have helped Israel through their decades of funding to Israel to be able to defend and aide themselves without needing the US aide to do so (like how the US was supposed to train anti Saddam Iraqis in the Iraq War to carry on the war for the US after the US left Iraq). The US needs to make Israel become self sufficient (hcst thng)
Sociologist Steven M. Cohen, says that the correlation between anti-Zionism and antisemitism is weak, with all of the combinations of the pro- and anti-Zionist and antisemitist positions being possible
The reason that the US gives so much military aid to Israel is that it's a strong US ally and a catspaw. The US gives way more to other countries if we include the troops we station there - South Korea is far and away the biggest recipient of aid well above Israel. Israel it's just the US doesn’t choose to risk American lives when they help defend the country unlike some of the US’s other allies that are less risky like South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/vvktp9/cmv_usa_its_unfair_that_a_portion_of_my_tax/
There is no reason that American politicians should have an Israeli flag in his office. I feel that temporary
Night’s Watchmen alliances international Minarchism (including temporary FULL military alliances within the framework of temporary Night’s Watchmen alliances) between the US and Israel would be more ideal and have more merit
That causes a lot of anti American hostility in the Middle East (muslim , anti zionist pov) and takes resources away from helping American citizens in the US.The US should focus on the US. Israel rightfully already has the help of Christians United For Israel , they don’t need the US Government’s Israel saviorism
I cautiously support
Christians United For Israel. They are the largest pro Israel organization in the US. See
here for more.
since some say i.e wikipedia christian zionism is anti dentitsm
I am against the US creating an embargo with Israel. no to Joe Biden plan
I support the U.S. State Department in 2022, removing Kahanism (removed from better than zionism portion of this blog post) from the U.S. terror blacklist due to "insufficient evidence" of the group's ongoing activity, (though rightfully it remains a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT) entity). Some analysts do say that Kahanism is too inclusive (inclusiveness amongst different groups of jews, Ashkenazy, Mizrahi, Ethiopi Beta Israel and others along with being bribed to be pro Palestinian) to remain on that terror blacklist
I have no issues with Donald Trump being a friend to Israel and being as Zionist as he is. He is the first Neocon President to actually want to try to find a solution to the Israel Palestinian conflict where the Palestinians are treated as humans and not as terrorists as previous Republican Neocon Presidents saw them. DJT is pro jewish philo
As a partly Jewish, pro co-exist, Left Libertarian, I view Na.zism as anathema to me crusade of romanism
but phrased anti naz ism diffrently
and it is very antithetical to my values and my practices. G Takei on sex abuse accusations against him phrasing
I support the Jewish Voice for Labour and I between tolerate and accept their
past assessments on the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn. This is why I kept supporting the Labour Party despite the scandal under Jeremy Corbyn
The campaign against "anti-Semitism" in the Labour Party takes hold of a vulnerability of the broad left - its intersectionality, its inability to confront identity-oppression claims. By doing so it weaponises the idea of anti-racism”. Mike Macnair editor of the Weekly Worker. stupidpol
Diaspora non zionism/zionism when done right is a good thing (see the UK’s Jewish community who I am a fan of for proof) but when done too much (never happened before that I know of, so hypothetical but still..) it could be an issue, albeit small one, and any mainstream political scientist would echo this point
It is a challenge for politicians to find compassionate to empathetic common ground with the Jews on Diaspora non zionism/zionism without those politicians stepping over the line in either direction.
We need more bridges and less barriers between our politicians and the Jewish community to make both sides happy. We need to bring Diaspora non zionists/zionists into the conversation on this and be part of helping to overcome this challenge
It is weird how the ADL says that saying any Jewish person has loyalties to Israel is antisemitism libel (which it is), but that you also can't criticize Israel because its very personally offensive to Jews who all hold Israel has their true homeland. stupidpol https://centlizedjxxgr.blogspot.com/2022/11/futute-11111.html
I am a-okay with Palestinian Nationalism, see here for why
Activism
The British Israelites groups of the late 19th century and early 20th century were eccentric but probably no more racist or anti semitic than the mainstream of Western culture at that time (but obviously wrong for having those bigoted attitudes). Adl
However, they were wrong about the Jews. Adl I hope that modern BDS and progressives don't make the British Israelites mistake of allowing legit criticism of Zionism to warp into bigoted and ignorant viewpoints that backfires
I see leftist extreme hostility toward Israel, Israelites, Zionism and similar targets as a silver lining (even though I abhor them for that over zealousness), since you dont expect the left be anti zionist
in that it proves they are hypocrites and exposes their negativeness to people who don't know they are so over zealous and extremely hostile
I support Anti BDS laws since I don’t like the SJW, cancel culture or boycott methods of the BDS movement and because Anti BDS laws are opposed by Liberal 2.0ers
I do wish Pro Israel people can help address the concerns of BDS people and their allies but in a Pro Israel way (ie in a P Buchanan common ground w D Duke republicans in 1990s to address their views by Republican party in non bigoted ways. freeper source)
way that benefits Israel and the Israelites and also makes the BDS people and their allies along with the Palestinians feel their concerns were alleviated at the same time while pushing the Liberalism 2.0 faction of the BDS movement to be non Liberal 2.0)
The BDS is a mixed bag. (antisemetic according to Adl)They use SJW , boycott , demonizing and cancel culture methods which I abhor and loathe. This reflects some of my views on the BDS
They go too far at times in other areas and aren’t diplomatic (I am pro diplomacy).
But the BDS are trying to humanize Palestinians which is great because Israel has wrongly dehumanized the Palestinians on occasion while treating them like terrorists which is Islamaphobic.
Palestinians are not terrorists ,they are generally no worse than Israel and they should get more support in the US. When both political parties in the US are so Pro Israel and won’t even show any sympathy for the Palestinians you know it is a serious issue
The BDS fighting against what they see as IDF ‘terrorism’ (self defense /s) against Palestinians is positive too since the IDF has killed innocent Palestinians and even some Israelis for too long.
I also like how BDS is trying to create a paradigm shift in US politics trying to push the US away from being blatantly Zionist (though BDS needs to refrain from going too far since they could be falsely smeared as antisemitic or become fully Liberal 2.0 which they most certainly are not)
If there was a problem solvers caucus faction (like in US congress senate) of the BDS I would consider supporting it.
The BDS map (antisemetic according to adl)should be used to build coalitions with Jewish buisness owners to find a third way/third camp solutions to the Israel settlement issues that doesn’t use SJW (i.e bullying, threatening, shaming, forcing) , boycott, demonizing and cancel culture tactics to do so, otherwise the map should be fixed or shredded.
The Jewish business owners who don’t comply should be left alone peacefully
BDS is wrong and twisted for smearing Israel as an ‘apartheid state’. Israel is far from perfect and has committed human rights violations but they are not an ‘ apartheid state’. I would never support Israel if I thought they were an apartheid state i support ISRAELI apartheid!
Rashida Tlaib should not have given in to extreme liberal anti Israel zealots and she should have went to Israel/Palestine as she planned
Conflict
“On the one hand there are the Palestinian Arabs, who have tilled the soil or otherwise used the land of Palestine for centuries; and on the other, there are a group of external fanatics, who come from all over the world, and who claim the entire land area as "given" to them as a collective religion or tribe at some remote or legendary time in the past. There is no way the two claims can be resolved to the satisfaction of both parties. There can be no genuine settlement, no "peace" in the face of this irrepressible conflict; there can only be either a war to the death, or an uneasy practical compromise which can satisfy no one. That is the harsh reality of the Middle East.”. Murray Rothbard
The closest approximation to my views on the Israel-Palestinian and Israel itself conflict are the Israel and Israel-Palestinian conflict views of
Haaretz,
Rabbi Yehuda HaKohen (his post zionism fused with Liberal Zionism,
latter was suggested by stupidpol poster) and
Jamaal Bowman
Bernie Sanders also reflects some of my views on the Israel-Palestine conflict, see
here for more
I want all states/governments ,classes and hierarchies on Earth to be abolished to create a stateless , classless, heiarchyless and thus inclusive, egalitarian world. This includes me wanting the state of Israel to be abolished and me not wanting any Palestinian state to be created.
This is line with the wishes of my fellow Left Wing Jews like Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Béla Kun, Rosa Luxemburg and Emma Goldman (
wikipedia article on Zionist antisemetism). See
this for more. This would basically be similar to a
no state solution where Israelis and Palestinians live in a stateless society (well technically it is a no state solution by its very nature) Maybe to along with this idea we also implement
this Bundism-Europe idea
But as I live in the real world known as the here and now:
I do not advocate for a particular solution to the I-P conflict and I do not call for either a “one state solution” or a “two state solution”. Instead, I focus on the realization of basic rights and the implementation of international law. I call for respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194. BDS
I do not support one side over the other . I feel Israel and Palestine should work forward to class consciousness over ethnic/religious identity reddit anarchist tankiejerk https://amp.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/nbp905/what_we_can_do_about_israel_palestine/
But there are some ideas for this conflict that I can get behind as I outline here
I would have opposed H. Res. 951 (if I was following politics back then) like Ron Paul opposed it. I also echo everything that Paul said in his statement in this article . I retroactively oppose H.Res 951 because I am Libertarian and an non interventionist
Since 2003 I have been pro co exist on the Israel-Palestinian conflict . Its just the Israel-Palestine conflict is so deep, complicated, violent and fluid, it's hard to get a handle on that issue (war/conflict is hell)
It is like a tug of war (political analogy i apply here or from here) and it is hard to sort out which side is the aggressor and which side is acting in self defense. It is tit for tat , complex conflict where the lines between aggressor and defender is blurred and involves gray. It is like a chicken or the egg type of conflict
I believe that Benjamin Netanayahu was too tough on Palestine and the Palestinians at times.
But I like the economic Post Zionism of Netanayahu. source wikipedia
Between me supporting the state of Israel existing and the Jewish ruling class and Benjamin Netanayahu‘s economic Post Zionism means by extension I am linked to Benjamin Netanayahu’s Likud making the Avi Moaz of the Noam party the head of Jewish identity in Israel and the Likud party forming a coalition withte Religious Zionist party, Otzma Yehudit and Noam party. But six degrees of seperation is a logical fallacy (association fallacy on steroids) and thus nonsense so i support hard right zionists of Israel which is contrarian and shields me from anti zionist accusations
The Israelis are hero antagonists and I am not bummed that Israel exists (I am a Post Zionist)
According to Afro Pessimist scholar Frank B Wilderson III Israelis and Palestinians are closer and have more in common with each other than they realize “I was faced with the realization that in the collective unconscious, Palestinian insurgents have more in common with the Israeli state and civil society than they do with Black people. What they share is a largely unconscious consensus that Blackness is a locus of abjection to be instrumentalized on a whim.”
So even the oppressed but nonblack freedom fighter who fights against a white supremacist, settler colonial project (Israel), as Wilderson III claims, has anti-blackness in common with their oppressor. He goes on to claim that the conflict between Israel and Palestine is only intelligible through anti-blackness:
Without the articulation of a common negrophobogenesis that relays between Israel and Palestine, the narrative coherence of their bloody conflict would evaporate. My friend’s and his fellow Palestinians’ negrophobogenesis is the bedrock, the concrete slabs upon which any edifice of Human articulation (whether love or war) is built. Though this piece from Jacobin is a nice counter to this argument
Pro Israel
I retroactively support the Jews ban (ch-r-m)/actions toward the pre Israeli inhabitants of Canaan (Hittite and the Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and the Jebusites) in the Book of Joshua. I retroactively support the way that the Jews conquered Canaan in the book of Joshua and took it over.
This shows why I feel this way.
justified edginess too
I especially like how the Mossad went to places like South America, then covertly kidnapped, captured and brought to Israel for justice those former NDSAP fascists in the 1960s etc
I could care less if Amos Oz and other Leftist Anti Zionist people call Israeli occupiers in the West Bank, ‘Neofascists’,(
judeo naughtzie)After the
Jewish Messiah comes to Earth (as the Neturei Karta claim), and restores the land of Israel, I will then support those Israeli settlers in that reformed Land of Israel in the West Bank despite that comparison
so i will be judeo naughtzie then wsaid future support
I present some balance to Left wing critique of modern day, pre Jewish Messiah Israel occupying the modern day pre Jewish Messiah West Bank as can be found
here ,and
here.
Annexing the modern day, pre Jewish Messiah West Bank is bad because it will either wrongly cause the Palestinians to be second class, non-voting citizens in Israel (which would threaten the democratic character of Israel) or it will cause Palestinians to have equal rights (which will threaten the Jewish character of Israel). Neither of these options are viable or good for either side. adl
However one of my solutions to the Israel-Palestinian conflict is for one state (One State Solution) between the Mediterranean and Jordan like the creator the BDS, Omar Barghouti wants. adl
For the sake of argument, even though I do not support modern day, pre Jewish Messiah Israel occupying the modern day pre Jewish Messiah West Bank, in the context of history, supporting such occupation by Israel of the West Bank can be seen as Left Wing cause since supporting such colonialism by Israel was originally a Left Wing cause
to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
A lot of the early Zionists were said to to be Socialists. The USSR was one of the first countries to recognize Israel as a country, Israel won the 1948 war against the Arabs in large part due to arms shipments that came from Communist Czechoslovakia, many of the early kibbutzim were proto Socialist communities(Noam Chomsky worked on one), David Ben Gurion (founding father of Israel) was the leader of ‘Mapai’ the ‘Workers Party’ which is a Democratic Socialist organization.
A lot of the Old Left was pro Israel as a result. There was enormous sympathy for the new Jewish state because of the WWII, also in 1948 Israel looked like the more progressive option compared to the feudal Arab regimes which surrounded Israel.
I support the Capital of Israel being moved to Jerusalem because as long Israel exists or exists as it is, the Capital might as well be in its eternal and traditional place adl j.g (Jerusalem). I also support the US embassy being moved to Jerusalem
Though maybe it would be better if the Capital of Israel is moved to either the Ancient biblical city of
Bethel or to Shiloh (but via a Donald Trump type 'let's make a deal' so Palestinians get something for giving up Shiloh to the Jews). But I can live with the embassy being in Jerusalem now
I admire Israel for being so unique and for the passion and unity that Israelis have for their country Richard Spncr
I like how the state of Israel is the homeland for Jews after their centuries of oppression in Europe (I am very glad that Israel was created to give a safe haven and a refuge to Jewish people after two thousand years of diaspora and senseless abuse in other countries. pro zionist argument like adlish) .
Since I am part Jewish, I love there is a whole Zionist country like Israel devoted to mainly to Judaism Jewish culture (Hanukkah, Passover, food, music etc) .
my views in early mid 2000s, the zionist part according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism#Zionism_as_expulsion makes me sound like i support stereotyping jews via zionism like early zionist fake antisemeties did
I think it is cool how they reformed their country after 2000 years since you never see countries reform after being destroyed (though if what the Judeo Christians say is in that the true Israel won’t be created until Jesus comes back to Earth and creates a true Israel for all Judeo Christians on heavenly post Earth , that will be even cooler than and majorly downplay our current Israel reforming in 1948 after 2000 years)
This gives me hope that the Native Americans and First Nations can reform their former lands and empires within the US and Canada back one day too (though not until we abolish , alter or reimagine private property)
I like how Israel is an outlier in the Middle East like I am an outlier myself, (for better or for worse), my views in early mid 2000s
Israel is a special place amongst the nations of the world and is considered a democratic civilized first world country
Due to Israel being positive toward Russia during the Russia Ukraine conflict, I give Israel some leeway as is partly why I am as charitable toward Israel as I am in this blog
I also like how Israel has closes ties to Vietnam and in someways
to China
Here is a similar concept to Israel by feminist Andrea Dworkin but for women.
Critique of Israel
Edward Said did once say “Zionism never spoke of itself unambiguously as a Jewish liberation movement, but rather as a Jewish movement for colonial settlement in the Orient.” dismantle adl
Israel is a major human rights violator and they have abused so many Palestinians, refugees etc for decades . We need to build solidarity with Israel’s victims
bds left wing anti zionists. Israel's abuses are covered up like Big Tobacco covered up the negative health effects of smoking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany or bdsish
Israel wrongly treated the peace floatilla activists like terrorists and they dehumanized and smeared those peace floatilla activists like they dehumanized and smeared Palestinians for decades
But Israel isn’t a democracy (though neither is the US, the US is a Constitutional Republic), it is a colonized settler state and ethnocracy that is built around privileging Jewish Israelis over everyone else . This pushes Israel to instate chauvinist laws which breed discrimination against Palestinians, even Palestinians that it begrudgingly calls citizens of Israel.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
I felt this way back in the early 2000s viewing online photos of Israel (like Hanukkah celebrations) where I saw all white Israelis and no Palestinians and no Jews of other races-ethnicities in said photos . It did feel a tad like a Apartheid viewing those photos back then.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
I have since come to my senses and downplay these thoughts or even no longer reel this way but I can see why some BDS say that Israel is an Apartheid state and this can be seen in my Israel Palestine views throughout this blog.
According to Sander Gilman and Shaun King, Jews were originally *POC (dark skinned), so there is no excuse for Israel to continue to be a white ethnocracy (not that they should be a white ethnocracy if that isn’t true, because they shouldn’t be a white ethnocracy regardless , I am anti racial-ethnic ethnocracy). Israel should grant and respect basic rights, implement and adhere to international law and be a state for all citizens.
*To expand on this, the bible does say in Revelations that Jesus eyes are like flames of fire, and his hair is like wool. Furthermore some people feel that the Lost tribes of Israel were black
This logic animates much of Israel’s demographic obsessions, giving credence to the dehumanizing view that Palestinian babies are demographic ‘threats’, because they ‘endanger’ an absolute Jewish majority.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
However, returning refugees would effectively end the Israeli regime which has historically organized itself through. colonial and discriminatory Zionist policies of Israeli chauvinism
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
We shouldn't be so hard on Israel since according to the Torah God pushes his nautral will by doing things that are at times seemingly against all countries on Earth, including Israel (but for good reasons not antisemetic reasons, and not to punish per say, just a 'karma thing due to how you lived' type of thing and done subtly a la Butterfly Effect). So let God be the one to do those things to all countries he sees fit to do them to (which furthers his will). J Hagee like
Even if Israel are acting on being provoked by the Palestinians to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany (not that the Palestinians are are bad, both sides equally got a legit grievance its just Israel's grievance is more faux legit than the Palestians' grievance which is actually as legit ) to combat the Palestinians so called aggression they should stand down and find more humane ways to counter the Palestinians
I get upset with Israel when I see senseless killings of innocent Palestinians by Israelis. I saw one photo in 2003 of a Lebanese baby with his head blown off by IDF soldiers or this innocent boy who was used as a shield by the Palestinians who was brutally murdered by Israel soldiers and those deaths should not happen ever
I view the IDF like former Israeli general and deputy chief of staff of the IDF Yair Golan views them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
Look at the reactions of Palestinians as mentioned here (pp 59-79) when Israel disengaged from Gaza. If Israel was so squeaky clean why would those Palestinians react like that if they weren’t being abused by Israeli? The IDF does seem to have some fascist element to it.Their senseless aggression and terrorism is no matter how fog of war or spun by apologists as justified is wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
It is intellectually dishonest to claim that dismantling this problematic undemocratic system is tantamount for calling for the genocide of Israelis, as it is often claimed. https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
When the Apartheid regime in South Africa was defeated, this didn’t mean the physical destruction or genocide of South Africa as a state or of the Afrikaner despite critics of the ANC constantly falsely accused them of calling for the genocide of the white population, similar to how Israelis do in our time against Palestinians (Israel is not a white supremacist or Apartheid state I just used this to make a point)
https://decolonizepalestine.com/intro/bds-101/
Israel has committed countless harsh human rights violations against the Palestinians for decades using the cover of being ‘America of the Middle East’ . This allowed Israel to avoid blowback and scrutiny for their abuse that other Middle Eastern countries could never be afforded
If Israel is to be the ‘America of the Middle East’ it should live up to that label and handle the Palestinian situation more humanely and compassionately.here
Since some fringe ultranationalist Israel supporters and Israelis keep smearing and dehumanizing Palestinians as ‘terrorists’ I have no pity when their actions toward the Palestinians are called genocidal like from Chile under Broad front (or I believe Israel’s overzealous actions toward the Palestinians can leave their actions towards the Palestinians could leave those actions being called a genocide) even though I know that both sides of this issue are equally brutal at times just in different ways. to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
These atrocities have caused pain and suffering on both sides. Israel should be held to a higher standard since they think they are God’s people and they are a first world country and America of the middle east.
Israel should have been dealing with migrants the way that the Christian Romans dealt with the Israelis to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany during the bible at worst, I can see how some people say that Israeli democracy is eroding.
Free elections and a parliament don't mean a country is free (look at Russia for proof) maybe left wing reddit, bds etc. Israel has done questionable things including wars recently that leaves themselves open to criticism
I do view Israel as being much much closer to being like the USSR under Joseph Stalin than to being a Fascist country.
Israel seems to want a heavenly peaceful country (like Israel under King David and King Solomon) just like the USSR under Joseph Stalin wanted a similar positive country but both Israel and the USSR under Joseph Stalin used/use the same type of red fascist violence to or try to acheive this , the ends never justify the means when humans lives are disposed to make this happen
More of Israel’s decades of human rights abuses against the Palestinians can be found here
I'll always be pro co-exist and support Israel even if Israel goes harder on the Palestinians. I will always be pro co-exist support Israel unlike Abraham Foxman
At worst , while I am still being pro co-exist, I would unconciously be hoping that G-d corrects Israel for their negative actions against the Palestinians literally the same exact methods he used to correct the Jews while they were roaming in the wilderness for 40 years in Exodus but without violence. Israel needs to show they are the bigger person.
I realize because war is hell that at least somewhat excuses some of Israel’s and the IDF’s more brutal actions against the Palestinians that I mention on this page to get in touch w my judeo naughtzie self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisons_between_Israel_and_Nazi_Germany
Israel gets away with ultra borderhawk immigration policies and ethnocracy while if the US did something like that countries like the UK, Germany, Israel, the ADL would rightfully condemn the US .It is a double standard. If we criticize the US for that we must criticize Israel for that too. Tucker carlson but from left
I disagree with some left Anti Israel people that Israel has been silent on white nationalism and implicitly or explicitly condoning antisemitic Zionists. For all their faults, Israel has rightfully been fighting against white nationalism and antisemeitism for aeons. There is no such thing as a "Zionist monopoly over the narrative of Jewish survival”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism#Zionism_as_expulsion i defend Israel and state above criticism of israeli ethnocracy doesnt include white nationalism accusations
Pro Palestine
Palestinians of today have a rich and great history and according to Judeo Christianity and Islam tradition, they are descended from Ishmael who was the brother of Isaac and they hold a key place in Judeao Christian/Abrahamic history. Some of the Palestinians ancestors are the Phillistines, Jordnians, Syria
Moreover, some religion theologians say that God gave Ishmael’s descendants ,the Palestinians oil rich lands in the Middle East as a consolation prize for the Palestinians not being awarded Israel (since according to some religious theologians, God gave Israel to the Jews). J Hagee
I do have an intuitive understanding of the legit Palestinian grievances that they have with Israel as noted throughout this blog.
If Palestinians feel they are being slighted by Israel they should be encouraged to apply for political asylum/refugee status in the US. We'll happily and somewhat more than conditionally take them. to help jews in Israel gain their land
I view the Palestinian Liberation Army and moderate parts of Hamas and Hezbollah as more tolerable than most Americans do.
I don't view Hamas or Hezbollah as militants (technically) or terrorists per say
Hamas and Hezbollah seem to at least try to care for their people (but some bad apples in their groups seem to care more about their rockets since some of those bad apple Palestinians use their citizens as shields for their rockets ,while Israel uses rockets as shields for their citizens),
It's just they go too far, and sometimes do commit brutal, sickening terrorism that gets downplayed or too downplayed by some pro Palestinians (but they are not terrorists per say) that makes it impossible for me to support them because doing so would mean I support innocent people dying, and since I am a humane person who cringes at death, I can't support Hamas and Hezbollah due to their brutal violence
So I intuively pity Hamas and Hezbollah. I believe Hamas and Hezollah aren't as bad as the MSM makes them out to be. Both groups are basically between 90s lovable rogues and Villain Protagonists with gray and blue morality
Hamas needs to stop being so violent and militant to show the rest of the world this and to garner sympathy in their cause.
I admire Hezbollah for their unique military and their fighting spirit. They are defending Lebanon. According to the Torah, God never gave Lebanon to the Jews or Israel. Hezbollah has done much senseless criminal acts and that is condemnable.
According to Christian scripture, God will restore Israel on Earth when Jesus comes,and based on world events ,that seems to be the direction our world is headed. The kingdom may be more spiritual and on a spiritual plane or literal (think X Files type supernatural). To balance the above out:
As late as 1918, leaders of Arab countries, including Emir Feisal (later King of Syria) supported aspirations to create a state for Israel. But extreme Arab militant groups like the Mufti soon replaced the moderates and diplomacy gave way to terror.conservapedia
I am against this law here being implemented in Israel
This law is authoritarian, anti Christian and evil. I encourage Christians to go to Israel to share the gospel with Jews if for no other reason than to spite this stupid law. From a theology standpoint it says in the book of Hebrews that God wants everyone to be saved, including Jews . I echo this site here and these Twitter replies to this stupid law
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